KCLUG January 2009

25 participants
20 discussions

I installed Linux on my pumpkin
by Brian Kelsay 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

As a fun project I decided to promote Linux on Halloween. About 30 minutes with the dremel and a pattern from the web. http://www.pumpkinlady.com/tuxpattern.htm

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Router Problem
by Jim Herrmann 04 Feb '09

04 Feb '09

Well, now back to my original problem. I have two run of the mill routers. I have a LinkSys WRT54G router/WAP that is connected to the cable modem. My shop building is too far away (120+ft) from the Linksys to make an effective wireless connection out here, but I have ethernet running from the Linksys to the shop building. I have an old Netgear WGR614 router/WAP that I can stick on the end of the ethernet cable, and I can establish a network connection, I can get to the internet, etc. That's all cool. The problem I have is that I can't get to our shared drive (Buffalo Link Station NAS), which uses SMB, that has the bulk of our music on it. I could live without it, but it would be nice to have, and still be wireless. So, how do I configure the Netgear to "pass thru" the SMB traffic. I guess I want to set The Netgear up as a bridge, but donot see any way to do that. Any thoughts on that one? Thanks, Jim -- - That One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUOHKznUyI

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Restating the case for keeping "User Data" on a physically separate drive or drives
by Oren Beck 03 Feb '09

03 Feb '09

I have been gently suggesting a new practice. Making it routine to keep the Non-OS data on a separate drive from the OS. Bluntly stating the two bedrock facts seems belaboring the obvious. But the percent of such default installs is trivial at best. So? I invite constructive comment on why or why NOT using a separate device for OS and user data makes any sense. The two bedrock facts being? 1: that any disaster befalling the OS device's file system has "less chance" of damaging user data. 2: Establishing that user data as detached from the OS assists many things. The list of those "many things" is non-trivial and more. Let me give the short closers *IF* we establish it as default practice that future Linux installs use a two device minimal mode we banish whole categories of data disasters. That alone is good enough for me. The icing on that being swapping an OS becomes closer to a trivial "no user data risked" operation. Addendum forced by premeditated desire to stifle the YahBut gallery is the cherry on top. In a long past time a "drive" was a truly major expense. Even removable media such as floppy etc were cost issues. Today ? I humbly offer the KCLUG thread on Craig's issues RE: Rolling back updates. as "Exhibit A" -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Re Undoing an update
by Craig Aldinger 31 Jan '09

31 Jan '09

I have recently built up a new computer and loaded it with a Canonical disc of Ubuntu 8.10, so far, so good. I like the OS and the upgrade from 7.10 was worth it. Until this morning.... I got the lit icon, checked the list of updates, shut down all other open programs and started the process. Downloaded 23 or 26 updates, among them a new linux kernel and its associated stuff, download proceeded smoothly and, at the end, required a system restart. I did so and that's when my troubles began. The list of weirdness is long and convoluted so let's just say it essentially crippled my computer. After some roundabout troubleshooting with Oren, I got it to run (sort of). What I want to know: is there a way I can undo/delete that specific update (all 20some of them) and restore my OS to where it was and, if so, how? Command line stuff is still a bit intimidating for me but I am always interested in learning so if the answer goes that direction, I'll learn! Thanks, Craig -- "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." Raoul Duke

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Re: Netgear Support for Jim
by Jim Herrmann 27 Jan '09

27 Jan '09

This was it. From here I found the reset instructions, and figured out that I wasn't holding down the reset button long enough. Duh! I'm working now. Thanks everyone! Peace, Jim On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Julie <betelgeuse67stang(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_Web_files/n101210.asp > > > Freedom means you are free to be responsible ~ Russell Means 'Free to be > Responsible' Speech: http://www.russellmeans.com/ ("Speeches" button > > scroll down - wink) > > If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each > other. > If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know > you will fear. > What one fears one destroys. ~ Chief Dan George: > http://www.indigenouspeople.net/dangeorg.htm > > Everything the Power of the World does is done in a circle. ~ Black Elk, > Oglala Lakota Holy Man: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Black_Elk > <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Black_Elk> > > > > > > > -- - That One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUOHKznUyI

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Router Problem
by Jim Herrmann 26 Jan '09

26 Jan '09

I have a Netgear router that I was trying to change into a pass through router, and I turned off the DHCP allocation. Now I can't get to the router at all. Any thoughts on what I can try? Thanks, Jim -- - That One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUOHKznUyI

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OT: Veeps
by Chris Bier 23 Jan '09

23 Jan '09

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OT: Possible tech assist needed Kirksville MO 1-19 from 9pm till 5am on the 20th
by Oren Beck 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

NCR lead and 3 workers will swap POS gear @ Kirksville MO Wal-Mart. 9pm Monday the 19th to 5 or so am Tues the 20th. So far it"s that lead, Me ,and Craig from the campground. This is the job I got the call about at the meeting:> We need one more tech minded person. Pay is $225 Contact me off list with questions or to join in the insanity of an all nighter. Carpool from Cameron MO and back there has a seat in the smoking car.. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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a near-term event for timestamp geeks
by David Nicol 14 Jan '09

14 Jan '09

Anyone planning any kind of celebration? catnip:~# perl -le 'print ~~localtime 1234567890' Fri Feb 13 17:31:30 2009 -- Lucky Cap'n Rabbit King Nuggets: For the Irish seafaring nobleman in YOU!

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UUIDs missing in Ubuntu?
by Sean Crago 11 Jan '09

11 Jan '09

I recently did a benign looking apt-get dist-upgrade in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex and, a few days later, rebooted. I think a kernel patch was involved, but I'm not sure/haven't tried to revert to an old one yet to fix this problem, but I'd like to find a cleaner fix: I have one old PATA HDD on my box that I mount on boot to /tmp via a UUID-based fstab entry. This used to work just fine. It's mounted a generic SCSI device, so it doesn't show up as hda1 anymore, but it shows up as sda1 and is symlinked to in /dev/disk/*/, as are my other generic SCSI devices - My removable media, my memory card reader, etc. Now, though, I don't see anything except my one SATA drive in my /dev/disk/by-*/ entries. To make things substantially MORE strange, all of these problems went away at 13:37 this afternoon, when the missing symlinks were created en masse. No reference at all exists to that time in any plaintext file in /var/log/ Any guesses as to what's wrong with my system and how to prevent this from blocking a proper UUID-based fstab from working at boot time? Thanks, Sean Crago Kathmandu

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OT: link sent to me described as "the best customer review on Amazon"
by David Nicol 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2X2TB3S4O5I60/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm -- Lucky Cap'n Rabbit King Nuggets: For the Irish seafaring nobleman in YOU!

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Twitter, et. al.
by Hal Duston 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Last night there was a brief discussion about twitter and similiar web applications. This site pre-dated twitter by five years. http://www.dullestblog.com/ Thanks, -- Hal Duston

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Kansas City Hackerspace Meeting
by Jestin Stoffel 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

Oren asked me at the breakfast after the meeting tonight to make a post reminding people of Thursday's Cowtown Computer Congress (http://www.cowtowncomputercongress.org/) meeting. The meeting will be 7pm at the Javanaut on 39th and Wyoming, and we will be discussing obtaining our new location. There will also be some cool projects being showcased, and a 6pm study group on opencv (http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/) beforehand. If your are curious, come check us out. --Jestin

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Wireshark Article
by Jim Herrmann 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

http://www.isp-planet.com/equipment/2009/wireshark.html Featuring our own Gerald Combs! -- - That One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUOHKznUyI

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Re: n00b question
by Billy Crook 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

As root, or via sudo, run: /sbin/lspci -nnvb | grep -i VGA -A 100 | grep -i "kernel module" -B 100 -m 1 That should adequately identify your graphics chipset. Eyeballs aren't scriptable. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 13:29, Billy Crook <billycrook(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As root, or via sudo, run: > /sbin/lspci -nnvb | grep VGA > > That should adequately identify your graphics chipset. > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:42, Haworth, Michael A. > <Michael_Haworth(a)pas-technologies.com> wrote: >> Hey – what is the command to have Fedora list back the video card in my >> laptop? I remember Monty telling me the command once, but it didn't stick in >> the brain… >> >> >> >> Michael Haworth >> >> PAS Technologies Inc. >> >> Direct Line: (816) 556-5157 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kclug mailing list >> Kclug(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> >> >

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n00b question
by Haworth, Michael A. 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Hey - what is the command to have Fedora list back the video card in my laptop? I remember Monty telling me the command once, but it didn't stick in the brain... Michael Haworth<mailto:[email protected]> PAS Technologies Inc. Direct Line: (816) 556-5157

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Transparent KCLUG-Tux
by Billy Crook 04 Jan '09

04 Jan '09

I needed a transparent background png of the KCLUG Tux logo, and I couldn't find one, so I just made one with The GIMP. http://kclug.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Tux-KC.png Use it as you see fit.

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Wednesday, January 7th Meeting Agenda
by Billy Crook 03 Jan '09

03 Jan '09

On the 7th: ------------------------------------------------------ - Demo of KCLUG's microblog, http://Laconica.KCLUG.com - Do we want a shorter subdomain name for it? Ideas? - What is Laconica, and the AGPL v3.0? - Full Metal Sendmail - Importing KCLUG Member gallery to wiki - Photo takes/retakes - Demo of new KCLUG Wiki code snippets Anything to add?

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Re: Wacom Bamboo Tablet
by Sean Crago 02 Jan '09

02 Jan '09

Justin Dugger wrote: >For various reasons, we can't provide an xorg.conf for your device by >default; chiefly, KDE absolutely HATES it when a device is listed in >xorg.conf but not present. I have no idea why it cares, but it does. On a related note, I've got a Nvidia card capable of driving three displays: One SVideo and two over DVI-I ports. Unfortunately the vendor's binary drivers removed the capacity for driving that third display, limiting TwinView to just that - Twin Views. I'll come back with more details later to see if there's a solution, but I'd like to point out that the nvidia-settings app that controls xorg and its config can make on-the-fly changes to which configured screen is activated, among other things (resolution etc). I regularly have to disable my second monitor to enable my TV-out - takes all of 15-20s, and goes away on the next X restart.

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Wacom Bamboo Tablet
by Jim Herrmann 31 Dec '08

31 Dec '08

I got my daughter a Wacom Bamboo tablet for Christmas. It works, and we figured out how to get pressure sensitivity working in GIMP, so it's fairly useful. However, the eraser doesn't seem to work, and there are also extra buttons on the Bamboo that don't seem to do anything in linux. The configuration information on the intertubes seems to be obsolete, like 2005ish. X is no longer configured with etc/X11/xorg.conf apparently. This is on Ubuntu 8.10. Does anyone have a Bamboo tablet and have everything working? I'd appreciate any input. Thanks, Jim -- - That One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCUOHKznUyI

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