KCLUG June 2011

23 participants
17 discussions

TCP experts - improving dial-up performance?
by Shawn C. Powell 05 Jul '11

05 Jul '11

Hi All, Yeah, so I have dial-up. Stop laughing. :) I would like some advice on making the best of my slow dial-up connection. The behavour I observe when downloading files (http get and ftp both) is: a) Download holds steady for some seconds, say about 30 b) Rate stumbles, falling to zero for a few seconds c) Rate shoots up to 4 or five times nominal d) Rate declines back to nominal over a few seconds e) repeat from a) A wireshark capture, if I am interpreting correctly, reveals that the window ( this is the TCP congestion window cgwnd?) increases during (a), whereupon at (b) a segment or two gets dropped, dup ACKS and retransmissions ensue (some which seem to me to be unnecessary), the window is shortened, progress resumes as normal for awhile, then the whole cycle repeats. So I imagine that packets from the high-speed sender are piling up somewhere in the path until eventually a buffer gets exceeded and a packet gets dropped. Am I reading the situation correctly? Is there any way I encourage the other end of the link to throttle back? Thanks for any comments and education. And really, stop laughing! -Shawn

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Systems Administrator contract position
by Brad Crotchett 27 Jun '11

27 Jun '11

We are looking for a Systems Administrator for a 3 month contract with the possibility of converting to permanent. Ideal candidates would have experience with Linux (RedHat), Apache, Tomcat, PostgreSQL, BigIP LTM, TCP/IP, iptables, ethernet cabling, and fiber channel storage. If anyone is interested, please contact me off list. It's a really nice company to work for and we are growing very quickly. Thanks, Brad Crotchett brad(a)bradandkim.net

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wikipedia party. No KC location. Too late? Could be a rave kind of thing.
by David Nicol 24 Jun '11

24 Jun '11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiknic -- "I sent you three boats, and then a helicopter! What were you expecting?"

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how to get yourself to go home at 7 PM
by David Nicol 24 Jun '11

24 Jun '11

this may or may not work... $ at 18:45 at> sudo shutdown -h +15 min at> <EOT> job 1 at Fri Jun 24 18:45:00 2011 -- "I sent you three boats, and then a helicopter! What were you expecting?"

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Patch Panels & Rack Stuff
by Jonathan Hutchins 24 Jun '11

24 Jun '11

This is all standard 19" computer rack stuff. All new, never mounted, left over from an over-estimated project. Comparable new prices: 4 ea. 2U 48 port Cat5 patch panel - $50 $200 8 ea. 2U Cable Management Panel - $30 $240 1 ea. 1U 6 outlet power strip - $60 (!) $ 60 ==== $500 A few guys expressed interest - here's the deal: Make me an offer. Minimum bid is you come get it. Trade items considered, Belgian or St. Pauli beer a possibility. Best offer gets it. (If you don't want all of it, take it all and re-post or go in with someone.) Need to get this out of the way of a plumbing project, so time is a factor.

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[[email protected]: Re: Help for a blind friend]
by Ed Allen 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

I am getting in to this a little late but I hope to encourage you to have your friend try out... http://vinuxproject.org/ Which runs on a live CD so your friend could try it without changing the current setup till she determines if it is acceptable. Also I found http://the-brannons.com/edbrowse/philosophy.html which describes a project by a blind programmer. I do not know if 'edbrowse' comes on the live CD or not. I talked off-mike with our blind interviewer/member and recall that he said he preferred Linux because the GUI was only run when he needed it. Most times he could do everything he wanted at the command line. Unix, and now Linux, were designed to be able to tie programs together to accomplish things their author never dreamed they could be used for. That is why we get things like 'dradio'... DRadio is a Danmarks Radio netradio, podcast, and TV player. It is a terminal based frontend to MPlayer that collects the available channels/podcasts for convenient browsing. http://www.thrysoee.dk/dradio/ Such combinations abound in the non-Windows world.

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CompUSA Sale
by Jonathan Hutchins 23 Jun '11

23 Jun '11

My dad forwarded this add to me: http://www.compusa.com/email/compusa/COMEM853.asp?SRCCODE=COMEM853TT&cm_mmc… Looks like it might be a pretty good deal - any comments? Interesting that Tiger Direct is now handling CompUSA's on-line sales.

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Re: Help for a blind friend
by Morgan Bush 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

The Going Linux podcast has some good resources for blind users. In episode 117, they interview a blind linux user who builds and sells systems. He discusses his system setup and additional resources. Also if you search the going linux site for "accessibility" you may find additional information that would help your friend. http://goinglinux.com/2010shownotes.html -- Episode #117: Linux Accessibility -Morgan

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proveit.com
by Jonathan Hutchins 11 Jun '11

11 Jun '11

I was recently referred to a skills testing site, proveit.com. They have a number of Linux skills tests available - all of which can only be taken in Internet Explorer running on Windows. It occurs to me that yes, there is a world where all the admins run Windows and manage their Linux systems and servers with putty, or more likely vnc or a web interface. I'm sure this is more common in the "enterprise" Linux world than in my experience. Besides the tests working only in Windows, they say that they were tested in Firefox 2.0 and IE6 - the latter being a notorious security hole that Microsoft has struggled in vain to get rid of. Anyway, just so you know, anybody citing proveit.com testing as evidence of Linux knowledge is pulling your leg.

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Re: KCLUG Digest, Vol 83, Issue 1
by Richard Allen 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I say android is the most common linux(not just server or desktop), but that's a pretty wild guess. On Jun 3, 2011 11:32 AM, <kclug-request(a)kclug.org> wrote: > Send KCLUG mailing list submissions to > kclug(a)kclug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kclug-request(a)kclug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kclug-owner(a)kclug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of KCLUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: most commonly used Linux version? (Jim Herrmann) > 2. RE: most commonly used Linux version? (Haworth, Michael A.) > 3. Re: most commonly used Linux version? (Andrew Scott Beals) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 07:02:00 -0500 > From: Jim Herrmann <kclug(a)itdepends.com> > To: kclug(a)kclug.org > Subject: Re: most commonly used Linux version? > Message-ID: <BANLkTimdm_0p52V+PBzSOmkN9j2xJUvgXA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Joe, > Since you were asking about desktop Linux, and the system administrators on > the list veered off into server land, let me bring this conversation back to > your original question. You said you wanted to install a desktop and wanted > the most commonly used Linux version. If you look at the vendors that are > selling retail desktops, to consumers, they are using Ubuntu. If you are > looking for the more common business desktop, then use Windows, because > businesses don't install Linux on their desktops, well damn few anyway. > Only smaller, smarter companies, do that. The big boys are all stuck with > Windows XP because it's too damn hard to change out 10,000 desktops of > people who need a three day class just to learn how to run M$-Word. I'm > sure that some companies, more in Europe no doubt, are switching to Red Hat > and SuSE desktops, but if you want the most commonly used *consumer* > desktop, download Ubuntu here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > I hope that actually answers your question and tip toes around the holy war > that still rages within the Linux community. ;-) > > HTH, > Jim > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Joe Cho <ksjoecho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to install a Linux to my desktop. >> Could you advise a most commonly used Linux version? >> for example: Redhat, Debian, etc. >> >> and where can I download? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> -Joe >> >> -- >> Joe Cho >> ksjoecho(a)gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> KCLUG mailing list >> KCLUG(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> >

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None
by Jack 06 Jun '11

06 Jun '11

I occasionally run into sites that haven't got a clue they are running on the Internet and want to do bizarre things with my printer interface. Some sites check your browser user agent string, but then use multiple addresses that possibly also check the string. Have you tried changing your user agent string both per site and globally? It may be that the sites require a windows-only DDE/ActiveX/WhateverOtherNewNamemMSGivesIt program to print. Like Coupons.com apparently does. If changing your global browser string doesn't help and private browsing doesn't work, you only real option is to complain. Bizarre that coupon sites which are geared for savvy shoppers would be so clueless to the savviest coupon in all of the PC world. The Linux coupon. Jack --- On Fri, 6/3/11, Hal Duston <hald(a)kc.rr.com> wrote: > From: Hal Duston <hald(a)kc.rr.com> > Subject: Coupons > To: "KCLUG" <kclug(a)kclug.org> > Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 11:52 AM > All, > > Has anybody had success "couponing" on Linux? Many of > the coupon sites > won't print under Linux, and indeed seem to go to quite a > bit of trouble > to make sure the browser is running in Windows. > > One site refused to print even when I viewed it with > Internet Explorer 7 > under Wine. (Installed via ies4linux). It was > still able to determine > that I was attempting to print from something other than > Windows. > > Thanks, > -- > Hal Duston > Kansas City, MO > hald(a)kc.rr.com > 816-916-7219 > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Patch Panels
by Jonathan Hutchins 04 Jun '11

04 Jun '11

Also available: 1U power strip, switch on front, 6 outlets on the back. 6' cord. Don't think it has any surge protection.

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Patch Panels
by Jonathan Hutchins 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Anybody have a use for some 48 port rack-mount patch panels? I have four, and several cable management units (mount on rack, route cables to patch panel).

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Coupons
by Hal Duston 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

All, Has anybody had success "couponing" on Linux? Many of the coupon sites won't print under Linux, and indeed seem to go to quite a bit of trouble to make sure the browser is running in Windows. One site refused to print even when I viewed it with Internet Explorer 7 under Wine. (Installed via ies4linux). It was still able to determine that I was attempting to print from something other than Windows. Thanks, -- Hal Duston Kansas City, MO hald(a)kc.rr.com 816-916-7219

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Remote control in Boxee
by Brian Kelsay 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Any one use a Harmony 700 and like it?

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most commonly used Linux version?
by Joe Cho 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Hi, I would like to install a Linux to my desktop. Could you advise a most commonly used Linux version? for example: Redhat, Debian, etc. and where can I download? Thanks in advance. -Joe -- Joe Cho ksjoecho(a)gmail.com

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Re: most commonly used Linux version?
by thomas＠redhat.com 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

Again, these stats are suspect simply because they are from a relatively niche sample. No argument Ubuntu does great in non-paid space, but that ain't a sustainable business model. And in enterprise compute, I simply never hear of Ubuntu. So if I were to do a quick survey of that niche space it'd look awful for Canonical. There are three kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. "jldugger(a)gmail.com" <jldugger(a)gmail.com> wrote: Meanwhile, on Linode[1]... 48% Ubuntu 24% Debian 16% CentOS 4.3% Fedora 3.1% Gentoo Now granted, #1 in nonpaying customers is kind of a tough spot to be in. And the RHEL pricing model doesn't lend itself to The Cloud. I imagine Canonical has a paid agreement to cater their OS to EC2, but we can't read their 10-K's so we'll never know. Justin [1] http://www.linode.com/about/ On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM, thomas(a)redhat.com <thomas(a)redhat.com> wrote: > The reason I said "depending on which report you read" is that "market share leadership" is such a nebulous term, it depends on how it's defined. Some reports I've seen say we have 85% of paid Linux revenue. Some reports say 55% of paid Linux server count. Still others say we're on 70% of all factory prepossessing of Linux. > > Frankly, I find all of these suspect for a slew of reasons from statistical accuracy to methodology to just plain common sense. > > Probably the closest thing to truth I can find - and even this is probably not the best yardstick - is revenue. Don't take my word for it, our 10K is public, as is Novell 's. > > Also Gartner and IDC have some decent data on things like server sales and OS sales. Go look at those. > > But the assertion that only managers and marketing types like RHEL, and real men like Debian is just absurd. What runs the NYSE? What does the FAA use to support the ~8000 planes in the air in US airspace every day? Hint: it ain't Debian. > > TC > > Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins(a)tarcanfel.org> wrote: > > On Monday 23 May 2011 04:17:54 pm thomas(a)redhat.com wrote: > >> We own between 65 and 85 percent of the Linux server market, depending >> on which report you read. Debian based distros are not really even a >> blip on the radar from a commercial standpoint. > > Based on number of licenses sold, or total revenue? > > IBM has a big share of the POS market, and their POS system is based on SuSE. > They don't count the licenses on a per-terminal basis as far as I know, so > their "market share" would be skewed too. ?I know of only one very small > specialty POS system based on RHEL. > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > _______________________________________________ > KCLUG mailing list > KCLUG(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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