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Kansas City Snort User Group
by Russ Starr 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Hello kclug members. I used to be on this mailing list a few years ago and even went to a few past meetings. I am back on this list now and I wanted to inform you of the Kansas City Snort user group that we have formed. I figured there would be a handful of interested members here that would like to participate in our meetings or future events. We have had a couple of meetings so far and I would like to welcome anybody that wants to join our mailing list, our irc channel, or come to our meetings. We are just starting off and our group's focus is a pretty narrow topic, so we are relatively small. We tend to discuss many aspects of network security... not just IDS or even Snort for that. We have planned our regular meetings for the fourth Tuesday of the month in attempt to respect your regular meeting schedule. I feel like I'm spamming, but our website is at http://www.kcsnort.org. Go check it out... I'm sorry to say that if you didn't go to our first meeting, you missed Marty Roesch who happened to be in town that day and dropped in for our meeting. It was definitely a treat for our first meeting! :) Thanks, -Russ

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HP 9000 Model 715/80
by James R. Sissel 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

What would one do with an old HP 9000 Model 715/80?

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RE: HP 9000 Model 715/80
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

There is a Debian that works on there. I think it has a RISC processor. You might also be able to get OpenBSD, PA-RISC Linux or others that are specialized. I looked it up and it has something like a 80MHz processor. As far as RISC systems go, I don't know how good that is, but good luck. www.fr.parisc-linux.org/documentation/hp9000_models.html http://openpa.net/systems/715.html http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=en&cc=us& prodClassId=-1&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=44239 www.openbsd.org/hppa.html >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of James R. Sissel >Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:00 AM > >What would one do with an old HP 9000 Model 715/80? >

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Live document collaboration
by Jason Clinton 06 Mar '06

06 Mar '06

Pretty cool developments from the guys behind AbiWord: in the upcoming version of AbiWord 2.6, multiple people will be able to edit the same document at the same time. AbiWord is a cross-platform word processor. Here is a screen cast: http://uwog.net/blog/?p=29 -- Jason Clinton <me(a)jasonclinton.com>

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Re: Which wireless card?
by Justin Dugger 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

I have a DLink DWL-510. Its drivers are not in the kernel, but rather as a seperate install similar to how nvidia works, but with more features exposed in Open Source liscenced code. These drivers are provided by Ubuntu in the linux-restricted-modules-'uname -r' package and have worked painlessly for me during install. I'm not sure which CD you're talking about that has an executable file on it, but driver CDs rarely have any useful programs on them, linux-wise. I've had a well versed network tech for a local uni suggest that orinocco cards are fantastic. I can't remember what he said about cisco cards. But definately make sure when you pick out something that you see the device listed by the drivers you intend to use. Justin Dugger - Hide quoted text - On 2/12/06, Chuck <chuck(a)mutualaid.org> wrote: > Hi everyone. I'm new to this list. > > I have a rather basic question that is Kansas City specific. I've set up > a box which is running Ubuntu Linux. I'd like to connect it to our home > wireless network. We have two Windoze machines connected using LinkSys > equipment to Internet being served up by Time Warner. > > Does anybody have suggestions about which wireless card will work with > my Linux box? Also, does one run the executable file on the CD or does > one have to copy files directly? > > I found the networking app on the Ubuntu menu and it looks like I can > configure the network (network name, WEP) once I get a device installed. > > Thanks for any help on these basics. > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >

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Re: What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on?
by John 05 Mar '06

05 Mar '06

http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/make-your-files-immutable-which-even.… I looked into a couple of things and had an idea that the link above plays into with this. What if you simply set the attributes for all of the files you wanted to read-only, set them to immutable, and any further attributes on the build system, but fail to put chattr on the router you are building. This means the files can't be removed, changed, etc on the router and if you tell it to mount Read-only for / on boot, problem solved. That would be the ulta-paranoid approach I would do. That way even if they managed to get it mounted RW, what can they change since the attributes would prevent changes and chattr wouldn't exist on the router. Another good way to ensure less issues is to minimize the system. Build it with a kernel, busybox, and the needed startup/support files for the router task. I would also suggest minimizing the abilities of apache if you decide to make it web configurable. Or look for a alternative web server thats hardened and small. -John Frakes unixengineer(a)earthlink.net -----Original Message----- >From: Leo Mauler <webgiant(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Mar 4, 2006 10:42 PM >To: kclug(a)kclug.org >Subject: Re: What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on? > >The main problem with the CF card solution is that the >CF card has no "write-protect" feature. The original >reason this topic was brought up in the first place >was that floppy-based routers have easily switched >write-protect tabs, allowing one to easily edit the >floppy if necessary, then switch it back to >write-protect mode for normal operation. > >Now, someone else has pointed out that there are a few >USB memory keys which have write-protect tabs, which >would make them an ideal substitute for the >floppy-based router. > >--- Michael <mogmios(a)mlug.missouri.edu> wrote: >> Better yet get a small (cheap) CF card and CF >> to IDE converter and use that. Very reliable >> and can be put together with a GB of space >> for little more than a floppy drive. About >> $20 usually. >> >> Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote: >> > I ran a firewall off one with Freesco for >> > something like 2 years. If a floppy isn't >> > going to work in this mode, you find out >> > real quick when you try to format it and >> > use rawwrite to put the .img file on it. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >Kclug mailing list >Kclug(a)kclug.org >http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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exciting developments on the MonoDevelop front
by Jason Clinton 03 Mar '06

03 Mar '06

For those programmers coming from the Windows world, you might be interested to know that an IDE with a fully integrated GUI designer will be available shorty from the MonoDevelop project. Currently only C# language features are supported but there's support for Boo, Java, PHP and Python in the works. Thus far there has been no OSS IDE with an integrated GUI designer available for Linux. The closest was KDevelop which included Qt Designer as a plugin. Here is the announcement: http://primates.ximian.com/~lluis/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=49 -- Jason Clinton <me(a)jasonclinton.com>

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RE: What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

Well, I think I started that email before I got any caffeine in my system. Come to think of it, I haven't had any yet today. Maybe that is my problem. I was just emphasizing the point about them being willing to do whatever it takes to get that last dollar from the customer. You gotta hand it to em. They could sell ice to Eskimos and not guarantee that it'll be froze when it arrives. A recent study I read about indicates that it is very difficult to read a person's emotional state via email or IM communication. That is why smilies and words in quotes are so helpful. We don't have the visual cues to tell us when people are joking or mad. I added the typical geek rant mode indicator, but could have easily added a tongue in cheek, gagging or some other face I was making at the time. I got in a hurry at the end however as the phone started to ring and I needed to get some real work done. Most of the time I'm ranting, I'm also laughing at the silliness of it all. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Leo Mauler >Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:41 AM >Ahhh, this kind of response is why I keep coming back here. >

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RE: What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on?
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

<rant> Yes, they would. They would use cans and string as a communications device, if they thought they could get away with it. They'd use the original DivX disks that self-destruct after so many plays or time-limit reached. If they could remotely destroy PCs with pirated software, they would. If they can steal an idea or a piece of software from a small company, they will. They would and have knowingly sent out code that has not been stress-tested or checked for security flaws only to come back later and service pack it when they had time, after there was a major vulnerability found. Anyone that has actually read the EULA knows that their software is not necessarily fit for the task that they sell it for and that you may not be able to sue them if it breaks and you lose business. </rant> >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Leo Mauler >Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:32 AM <snip> > Apparently Microsoft felt that a DMF disk was more >than adequate for "irreplaceable" software, especially given >that they did not include any tools in Windows to create >backup 1.680MB disks for their software (probably to curb >software piracy). > >I remember installing Windows95 and (pre-SE) Windows98 from >these same 1.680MB floppies. > <snip> > >"<snip> After all, would Microsoft use these disks to >distribute its own software if they were unreliable?" >

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What is the modern "Floppy-Based" router based on?
by Leo Mauler 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

I was going over some of my old links (in backup CDs) and found this interesting link to creating 1.680MB floppy disks for use in floppy-based routers and gateways: http://www.trevormarshall.com/byte_articles/byte19.htm This made me think about the whole concept of the PC-based router/bridge. Floppy disks have the write-protect tab on them, making them easily switched (provided you have direct access to the PC) from write-protect to run the router, to flipping the write-protect tab for editing the router, and then flipping it back to write-protect once you are finished with the edit. What can the modern PC-based router use to duplicate this nice combination of security and ease of editing? You can duplicate the security (and possibly make it better) with a write-once CD-R, but to make changes you have to write an entirely new CD. ReWritable CDs aren't a good idea precisely because they have no "write-protect tab". The same might go for a memory key, since there is no "write-protect tab" for a memory key. I've been taking training classes with Cisco routers recently, and the one issue they all seem to have is that if someone manages to get past an interface password and then a configuration password (two words: "social engineering"), even without physical access to the router, they can change (and access) what they like. While I've been told there are ways around the write protect tab, it seems to me that having some form of physical write-protect on the media used to store configuration files would be a good idea for modern routers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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