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The dominant OS on these lightweights is Linux!
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

http://www.liliputing.com/2008/04/over-past-six-months-or-so-asus-everex_24… -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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old laptops - I need several for grandchildren-no joke.
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Long story snipped to point- My stepdaughter is beginning what will be a very nasty divorce. thus I need to keep my 2 grandkids occupied. Here's the issue. This has a near zero budget- A few bucks here ant there can be pried loose if needed. The goal besides keeping the kids occupied is to show them and all in their external lives that Linux CAN be a primary Operating System for grade school children. Any donations- offers of cheap stuff- or even practical advice will be appreciated. There is an option of payment for hardware/time helping set this up by me giving you free camping within reason.And yes- that means families too! Details further as needed. Contact me off list as needed. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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A work around that may have wider potential -Video card loopback using paper clips for setup
by Oren Beck 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

The story seems to be centered on OSX for the EEE. Yet the implications are wider. This trick may lead to video and devices we thought not Linux usable being rethought. http://www.hackaday.com/2008/04/26/ghost-external-vga-display-hack/ Or- one could hack the plug end from a vga cable leaving enough wire to make the loopback plug ? -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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VERY Off Topic, but I am DESPARATE!
by Julie 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

I need a home for an adult male cat. I can _*NOT*_ keep him!!! He is a very sweet an loving cat. He _*deserves*_ a good forever home! If any of you can at *least* foster him for me (or know someone who can) until we ...working together... can find a permenant home for him both he and I will be extremely greatful. After all, (please don't start a firestorm over this) he is one of God's creatures, too!!!!! All the "rescue" groups and no-kill shelters that I've called are FULL to capacity. There are not even "Fosterers" available through these channels. I've called as far South as Ray Town, West to Leavenworth, East to eastern Independence, Platte City, Excelsior Springs...the list goes on and on and on. I've been on the phone since 8am this morning...NO LUCK!!! grrrr! If people would just Spay or Neuter their animals we would not have the Homeless Pet Population PROBLEM that we have!!! If these same people would be RESPONSIBLE animal caretakers for their 'beloved' pets, this would help, too. :| --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Re: Asus EEE PC
by Sean Crago 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

>I have had one suggestion so far that the screen size makes this _not_ >a good machine (even) for casual coding. The EEE looks mighty tempting, but I'm waiting for the PC900 iteration for precisely this reason. That said, it's still more screen than your brother will ever need if he's comfortable with a TTY-style environment. If not, you might be better off investing the same money in a clunky & hefty old refurb P4 with a real screen. -Sean

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Asus EEE PC
by Arthur Pemberton 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Gentlemen, I need your help justifying purchase of a new computing device. Do any of you have experience with using the Asus EEE PC (mostly likely 2G) in a mostly unconnected role as an educational tool? I am interested in introducing my brother (high schooler) to programming type activities (esp. python). However, since the machine is being marketed as a "surf machine" I am wondering how well it would fit that role. Thanks for any feedback -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com )

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Old laptops - recycle?
by Christopher Hoelscher 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Hey all - Got some junk I'm cleaning up, and was wondering if there is any news on convenient ways to donate for recycling.... I've got an old HP 550ct and an AT&T Globalist 130... believe it or not, they both work, but they sure don't do much. Doesn't even look like the "nostalgic" folks on eBay would be interested.... Still, seems that someone should get at least the recycling value out of them, but I'm not finding anything good on a quick google search. Thanks - Chris.

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Re: Asus EEE PC
by lerninlinux＠comcast.net 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

-------------- Original message ---------------------- > Price and size are really also another issue. Old laptops fail > (normally) both of these. Anyone know of a brick and mortar store that > stocks EEE Pc? I suspect it would be best to actually open a text > editor on one of these. $300 is a fair price, but eyesight is > important. > > -- > Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine > ( www.pembo13.com ) > _______________________________________________ > Kclug mailing list > Kclug(a)kclug.org > http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug I just came back from Microcenter over in Overland Park (Thanks to Leo for the wireless card info!), I knew they carried them, but they FINALLY had one on display. It actually looked pretty clear and good, I am just not sure how I would deal with the keyboard as I have a mangled finger from a few years ago. (something that small would be the biblical typing method.........Seek and Yee shall find)

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GPL Vs FCC Vs Common Sense- A triangular entanglement that defies easy reconciliation.
by Oren Beck 26 Apr '08

26 Apr '08

GPL is quite explicit in intent. America's FCC has an assigned mandate equally both explicit and critical. As in "Life Safety" critical. Common Sense fails with potentially deadly results to mediate the conflict between GPL and FCC rules. Here's why and how. Hardware bound RF gear formerly required "hands on" manipulations to violate designed in interlocks. For that fact-we were a bit safer from "Life Safety" systems being crashed. Either by accident or malice.. We are now in a time when our world's interwoven RF systems have become literally a LIFE SAFETY critical realm. And that's understating it for some cases! Folks- we have simply too many of what Larry Niven labels "Fuggheads" to allow certain risks. Yet prudence dictates sanity AkA "Common Sense" in evaluating the real balances between things like GPL and full ownership of our hardware-as opposed to screw ups killing people. SO- here's my take on a possible De Facto gambit we modders/coders/other involved parties can do. And it's a simple short sketch. 1.Advocate for risk management guided by Reality..As Common Sense is NOT always Reality. 2 Repeat #1 3. Failing steps #1 and #2 WILL have us deep in several different sorts of the unpleasant #2 Oh yeah- if you think me alarmist? contact me OFF LIST and I will scare you into awareness... Oren Beck 816.729.3645

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Inexpensive PCI Wireless card now at Microcenter
by Leo Mauler 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

I was browsing through the wireless network cards at Microcenter (93rd & Metcalf) and came across a "generic" (or at least "no brand name") wireless card for $19.99. The chipset is a RA2561T, the "AWI-926T" model name seems to indicate that it is an "Amigo" network card. It does 802.11g and 802.11n, and when I got it home Ubuntu found it and used the RALink driver with no difficulty getting it to connect to my 802.11g wireless router. Cards using the RALink driver are among those recommended by the Free Software Foundation. I thought I'd mention this in case anyone is looking for a cheap, Linux-compatible, FSF-recommended chipset wireless PCI card. It is one of the few boxes which isn't shrink-wrapped so you can verify the chipset for yourself (if you like). ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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