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more STUPID now than ever
by Oren Beck 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

*This is a new level of stupid. A drive should do what it is told. http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/06/western-digital-netw.html*

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HastaLa-Vista
by Julie 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

At breakfast after the last meeting I promised a handful of peeps that I would post a couple of links to YouTube that are about Vista that I've saved, so here they are: "Vista Wonders" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Tu5CPVoP8 "Install Vista in 2 Minutes" http://youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno ENJOY! Julie @};- BTW: ....How about this S-N-O-W and ice???? NIIIIIICE, isn't it? NOT!!! Heads up: http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Kansas+City&state=MO&site… --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Google redirect explains some comment spam- may be a Linux boost? With a rant of mine
by Oren Beck 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

I mentioned near the end of last night meet about some weird spam. THIS: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/139999/search_google_click_to… May explain more details. suffice to say that if spun right Linux can profit from their malice. All I can say in my proper person so to speak is that were such effort spent on legit ends they'd be in the top 50 instead of risking 50 years. I can understand temptations but this now is an unarguable predicate malice. Damned if all I can see our kids learning from this is a distortion of sanity. "Download a song and you are presumed guilty with no appeal beyond counter suit. Kick your way into a small town store-steal a day's receipts and a good lawyer beats it for you . STEAL literally millions and cause more millions in collateral damages instead as that's SAFE" THAT warped mindset is ALREADY FREAKING HERE if you read the news. A disconnect where premeditated crime is ok and innocence is no defense. Linux offers a mitigation. As raising the bar of effort to commit certain crimes adds to the degree of premeditation. An increased degree of premeditation makes proof of witting criminal intent more explicit. It's akin to a zippered bank bag having a key lock on the zipper. Yes, a thief CAN "slit the bag" but that shows both tangible proof and overt bad action all at once.. Annd if that locked zipped bag were behind a wooden door locked with a key-in knob lock? damned few thieves will"pick" such a lock bump keys etc aside- they just use the DocMartens key and kick it open. Inelegant but effective. Then they slit open that bank bag they found in the drawer under the cash register. A stack of overt bad acts rather hard to profess innocence after the fact . It makes the lawyer defending you work much harder to explain that many stacked overt acts. Yet our perp knows enough money will protect them despite quite real guilt. Let's call that perp."Boots" AND HOW MUCH $ for Boots? Minus lawyer$ but including the crimes they never get caught for.? Another perp does the malware trip- Let's call that one "Keys" Keys does not have the worries of Boots. And why? Who here can overview HOW a malware con gets Keys paid. And how much? Then a cost estimate on collateral damages from Keys doing the game After those snapshots let's consider the relative cost of switching from MS to Linux Vs a steel door,Good quality safe, and making bank drops nightly. The last point being where the MS/ Linux mindset gap lives. All that goes to show cause for considering at minimum a rethinking of exploitable software being acceptable. As when enough of us are running software that's harder to exploit? Keys will reconsider a last phishing trip to buy a set of DocMartens.

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i chat Therefore i am
by Ryan Smith 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

it does not take long for them to start talking about the meaning of life. http://discovermagazine.com/2007/brain/i-chat-therefore-i-am - Ryan Smith

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Address and Directions for Tuesday Night Trial meeting
by Phil Thayer 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

The address is: Vital Support Systems 2700 Bi-State Dr. Suite 500 Kansas City, MO 64108 Here is the Mapquest link to the address. If you use Google it will not find it. Mapquest does have it. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addto history=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=& name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=2700+Bi-State+Dr&city=Kansas+City&state =MO&zipcode= Basically, if you are on I-35 and exit at Cambridge Circle then turn North and go up the hill. Turn right at the first road and continue up the hill. Turn left into the first parking entrance and go past the KONE Escalator/Elevator office to the middle of the building and you will see the name on the door right before you get to the Trane Air Conditioner offices. If you have problems with how to get here on Tuesday evening give me a call at 816-985-0799. See all of you on Tuesday... Phil

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RSS Feed For Forums
by Steven Hildreth 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Hi, Just wanted to annouce that the KCLUG Forums now have a RSS feed so you can setup your RSS aggreators to notify you of new posts automatically. Post with details -> http://www.kclug.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13 RSS URL -> http://www.kclug.org/forum/rss.php NOTE: You do NOT have to have an account on the forums to read posts, you only need an account to participate (read = to post). Regards, Steven

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Re: Forum
by cragos＠gmail.com 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

First post! We still have a couple of openings in my workgroup, if anyone's interested - http://www.kclug.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12 Thanks for throwing the board up, Sean >From: "Steven Hildreth" <sphildreth(a)gmail.com> >Done. Great suggestion. > > >On Nov 30, 2007 2:35 PM, <cragos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I know a number of LUG members have discussed setting up a job board. >> I assuming we don't want to mess with setting up a paid system, as it >> would be beneficial to all users - I found my current job and multiple >> good candidates through the LUG, benefiting everyone involved, and >> lord knows there's plenty of other people with similar experiences. >> >> Throw a job posting forum in there, under KCLUG, and I bet it'd be used. >> >> -Sean

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RE: KCLUG forum registration
by cragos＠gmail.com 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

I'm in the same boat - If we don't already have it, we really ought to get a couple of admins, just in case someone gets hit by a bus or takes a googletubless vacation. One other thing - I'm spooked by the way the password is resent in plaintext in the authorization email, w/o any real prompting. Surely that can be disabled, right? -Sean >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:08:29 -0600 >From: "Phil Thayer" <phil.thayer(a)vitalsite.com> Maybe they're trying to tell you something? :) > -----Original Message----- > From: kclug-bounces(a)kclug.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:05 AM > I registered for the forum a while ago. I even got the confirmation > notice. Now I'm waiting for the approval. And waiting, and > waiting... ;) > > Jon.

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KCLUG forum registration
by Jon Pruente 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

I registered for the forum a while ago. I even got the confirmation notice. Now I'm waiting for the approval. And waiting, and waiting... ;) Jon.

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flashing FON routers. Can the Dual SSID "Feature" be retained under WRT ?
by Oren Beck 05 Dec '07

05 Dec '07

Long complicated details of myu campground situation snipped but it would be an advantage to have a dual SSID in place on my AP's

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