--- Jeremy Turner wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:07:43PM -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
It's my understanding that oo2 no longer runs on
Linux, but requires
Java instead.
It looks like more of OpenOffice.org 2 is dependent on Java, but you can use parts of it without. OO.org 1 used Java for:
...
So you can do things like type and print, but getting into more complex features would require a JRE. The article goes on to say that some distros use a free JRE with gcj, and others don't include OO.org at all (Slackware).
One I don't see why using java is an issue. Java runs fine on Linux. Yeah I know all the *Evil Sun* issues. Blah, blah, blah. Anyway from what I understand the "free JREs" don't necessarily work well with OO. Some of the features aren't working yet. Eventually someone will come up with a 100% "free" JRE, but until that happens you're best bet is to install Sun's JRE for OO. Personally, I don't care too much about the battle over Sun's JRE, but would use an alternate if it was stable enough. The point of the original post was about porting users to Linux. If that means giving them Sun's JRE and OO2 so much the better.
BRian D.
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On Wed, April 13, 2005 12:30 pm, Jack said:
--- Jeremy Turner wrote:
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:07:43PM -0500, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
It's my understanding that oo2 no longer runs on Linux, but requires Java instead.
So you can do things like type and print, but getting into more complex features would require a JRE.
So it appears that oo has decided to use Java for functions somewhat like MS Offices uses Visual Basic. "Document Wizards" are a Microsoftian evil, but some amount of macro scripting is useful for things like invoice systems.
One I don't see why using java is an issue. Java runs fine on Linux. Yeah I know all the *Evil Sun* issues.
Anyway from what I understand the "free JREs" don't necessarily work well with OO.
I'm no license nazi - the problem is just that, which Java do you install? Sun? IBM? Does a free "JRE" include all of the components that OO expects? Do I need a JRE, a JVM, or a JDK? It is a whole OS, if one is to believe the "virtual machine" terminology they use, and I object to having to maintain an entire OS for one or two applications. Choosing, installing, and maintaining a Java distribution to support a single app is a bit like installing Microsoft Office Professional to edit a one-page text file, if there were multiple versions of Office to choose from.
On Thursday 14 April 2005 6:31 am, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
I'm no license nazi - the problem is just that, which Java do you install? Sun? IBM? Does a free "JRE" include all of the components that OO expects? Do I need a JRE, a JVM, or a JDK? It is a whole OS, if one is to believe the "virtual machine" terminology they use, and I object to having to maintain an entire OS for one or two applications. Choosing, installing, and maintaining a Java distribution to support a single app is a bit like installing Microsoft Office Professional to edit a one-page text file, if there were multiple versions of Office to choose from.
Its no different than having to "install/maintain" .Net. I don't see the difficulty here, all the distro's have java available. Its not like you have to go to Sun and download and install it yourself, like windows.
Besides Java is optional, you don't have to enable the scripting features.
You should prolly go and download OO.o 2.0.
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