Re: At least now I know why I haven't been able to torrent lately. OR: Anyone know any good ISPs?
Time Warner IS Roadrunner. There are very few places where you can have either cable service in the KC metro area (it's a controlled monopoly). DSL may not be an option, because of your location. Everest is the same way (not available everywhere). If there was competition, it wouldn't be so high. I am screwed. But even my brother would prefer that choice, as his two choices are dialup and satelite. (outside of Pleasant Hill, the WRONG way, from all the buildup).
I haven't tried it yet, but you might look up encrypting Bittorrent traffic. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "feba thatl" [email protected]
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/21/comcast-is-starting-the-tiered-intern... hether-we-like-it-or-not
Just saw this earlier. Am I the only one that's appalled by this? I've sent them an angry letter and had a chat with one of their internet chat employees, and if they don't reverse this soon I'm planning on leaving. Does anyone know any good ISPs in the area? Bundled cable (or at least, not satellite) TV is a big plus. I'm looking at Roadrunner, Time Warner, AT&T, and a friend told me about a company called Everest, but of course their marketing sites don't tell you the bad and the ugly of it.
Thanks
If you live in the North Kansas City area there is an alternative - Fiber to the house. NKC has spent a lot of money to build a fiber network and is supplying very cheap bandwidth to the residents and businesses.
I have a couple of servers in NKC, if there is enough interest I would be willing to consider hosting a torrent server stuff like this.
- Michienne
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: At least now I know why I haven't been able to torrent lately.OR: Anyone know any good ISPs?
Time Warner IS Roadrunner. There are very few places where you can have either cable service in the KC metro area (it's a controlled monopoly). DSL may not be an option, because of your location. Everest is the same way (not available everywhere). If there was competition, it wouldn't be so high. I am screwed. But even my brother would prefer that choice, as his two choices are dialup and satelite. (outside of Pleasant Hill, the WRONG way, from all the buildup).
I haven't tried it yet, but you might look up encrypting Bittorrent traffic. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "feba thatl" [email protected]
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/21/comcast-is-starting-the-tiered- internet-w hether-we-like-it-or-not
Just saw this earlier. Am I the only one that's appalled by this? I've
sent them an angry letter and had a chat with one of their internet chat employees, and if they don't reverse this soon I'm planning on leaving. Does anyone know any good ISPs in the area? Bundled cable (or
at least, not satellite) TV is a big plus. I'm looking at Roadrunner, Time Warner, AT&T, and a friend told me about a company called Everest, but of course their marketing sites don't tell you the bad and the ugly of
it.
Thanks
You all are complaining about TW/RR, but they were by far the best cable ISP I have ever seen since @Home went under-- 4 included IPs, servers allowed, reasonable prices... Up here I need to deal with Cox who would want about $100 for the same service TW charges $42 for.
As far as NKC's fiber thing, IIRC when I looked at that, their prices were a bit higher than TW's with nothing special to justify it.
What's up with the torrent discussion? TW is not Charter...
I got an email back from comcast saying that they "do not throttle bittorrent" and that it's not an official comcast statement and shouldn't be taken "at face value"-- so they're just blocking it all around and don't want to admit it, as I figured. As far as fiber optic, as nice as that would be, I'm in Olathe, so I don't think it's an option. I'm looking into Everest, but their website is pretty bare, so it's kinda hard to find out about things. I figure I might as well try encrypted bittorrent, but having to use special means to use bittorrent is as bullshit as having to use a voice changer to call for pizza delivery, so if that's the only way around it I'm not going to stay with them.
Annoyingly, it seems like all these companies are bundling phone service, which I really don't need or want-- I've been free of a land-line phone for years, cell phone only. On the other end of the spectrum, there's internet only, which doesn't cover the TV.
On 8/22/07, Luke -Jr [email protected] wrote:
You all are complaining about TW/RR, but they were by far the best cable ISP I have ever seen since @Home went under-- 4 included IPs, servers allowed, reasonable prices... Up here I need to deal with Cox who would want about $100 for the same service TW charges $42 for.
As far as NKC's fiber thing, IIRC when I looked at that, their prices were a bit higher than TW's with nothing special to justify it.
What's up with the torrent discussion? TW is not Charter... _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list [email protected] http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
On Wednesday 22 August 2007 10:24, feba thatl wrote:
I got an email back from comcast saying that they "do not throttle bittorrent" and that it's not an official comcast statement and shouldn't be taken "at face value"-- so they're just blocking it all around and don't want to admit it, as I figured. As far as fiber optic, as nice as that would be, I'm in Olathe, so I don't think it's an option. I'm looking into Everest, but their website is pretty bare, so it's kinda hard to find out about things. I figure I might as well try encrypted bittorrent, but having to use special means to use bittorrent is as bullshit as having to use a voice changer to call for pizza delivery, so if that's the only way around it I'm not going to stay with them.
I live in Olathe, and also use Comcast. I've got no problems with BitTorrent since switching away from using a Linksys WRT54G/GS for a router/firewall. The problem is simple... Those devices track connections for far far too long, and overload themselves. Apparently this doesn't apply to v5 devices and up, but you can read more about it here:
http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#Special_note_for_users_with_Linksys_WRT54G_G...
Perhaps that is your problem? It's rather easily solved on the older devices by upgrading your firmware to DD-WRT.
Anyway, the only other option for broadband here (aside from satellite, which, IMO, doesn't really count) is DSL, but you'll need a land-line for that... IIRC, ATT/SBC won't let you have DSL without also having some kind of local phone service through them (even if you attempt to go with another provider, say SpeakEasy).
Rich
Traffic shaping has been around for awhile, and there are a few ways that have been developed to get around it with bittorrent. Encryption is one of them. TWC hasn't been traffic shaping (so you might want to switch to them), but I checked the box for RC4 encryption in Azureus awhile back to try it out, and Azureus encryption doesn't do much of anything to performance. If traffic shaping is occurring, then with Azureus you should force anyone connecting to you to use RC4 encryption and don't allow unencrypted connections.
ISPs can sometimes block encryption, so if that happens you can tell your bittorrent client to be connectable through a different port than the standard 6881 to 6889 port range usually taken by bittorrent. That range is usually nailed shut by a traffic shaping ISP.
If you aren't getting your phone service through your broadband Internet provider, set your bittorrent client to use the VoIP port 1720, as usually the VoIP port is left wide open by the ISP. This is especially true of the ISPs which bundle Internet phone service.
Ports which get a lot of UDP traffic typically get left open as well. This includes gaming ports (the Counter Strike port 27015 works well), and streaming ports such as the Yahoo Music Streaming port 1755 and the Yahoo Messenger Video Webcam port 5100.
If you really get desperate there's always port 80, the HTTP port. Traffic shaping regular web browser traffic would kill an ISP completely.
--- feba thatl [email protected] wrote:
I figure I might as well try encrypted bittorrent
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Well, I pay $200 for a thirty meg x thirty meg connection. TW/RR doesn't offer that. Also, NKC's fiber is competitive wit RR. All of the connections are synchronous and that they do not do any traffic shaping. They're cutting edge. Not many place offer internet places as a municipal utility.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Luke -Jr Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: At least now I know why I haven't been able to torrent lately.OR:Anyone know any good ISPs?
You all are complaining about TW/RR, but they were by far the best cable ISP I have ever seen since @Home went under-- 4 included IPs, servers allowed,
reasonable prices... Up here I need to deal with Cox who would want about $100 for the same service TW charges $42 for.
As far as NKC's fiber thing, IIRC when I looked at that, their prices were a bit higher than TW's with nothing special to justify it.
What's up with the torrent discussion? TW is not Charter... _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list [email protected] http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
Hi all,
Please accept my apologies for the mis-mouse. That posting should not have been sent to the list. (Life's fun, ain't it? ;> )
Sincerely, Shawn C. Powell
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