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Orinoco wireless pc card
by kurt＠verruckt.org 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Anyone running an Orinoco wireless pc card? 84xx series? Just want to do some research before zapping the drive on my laptop. So far im not finding any recent information.

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Help --- can't get on to CenturyTel ISP
by Gary Hildebrand 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

>From what I can tell, their end is some sort of weird protocol, at least from what my ear can tell from the usual burps and squeals. My modem and theirs just don't connect. No error msgs, nuffin. Dials in, and I hear the dialog between protocols and it just gets lost in the woods somewhere. There has to be some sort of Init string for my USR Sportster 56k that would work. Their help desk doesn't support Linux (shame on them) and I've had a couple bum steers, so I'm open to any and all suggestions. Maybe there is someone out there who knows someone who is both a Linux and CenturyTel ISP user who might have the answer. If you know of a way to cross post this, go right ahead. Looks like their services are worth very little if I can't get this to go. They already have a reputation for having lousy customer service --- so far I've seen little to contradict that. I'm stuck with them for my telephone service up here in the boonies. Tnx in advance, Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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RE: Thunderbird
by Rob Becker 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

I am using Thunderbird in a windows environment and sending mail out through and Exchange server. I don't pull my mail from the Exchange server. I use Tbird to read my personal mail. My hosting company doesn't have an smtp server available so I just use exchange to pass mail out. It's not too tough to set up. The biggest kicker is making sure you enable authentication for smtp and plug in credentials for your exchange server. Let me know if I can help further. Thanks. Rob -----Original Message----- From: Brian Densmore [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:14 PM To: KCLUG (E-mail) Subject: Thunderbird Anyone using Thunderbird on Windows? Any one using thunderbird with an Exchange server account? Will this email actually get sent from Thunderbird? [no it didn't] Brian D. _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug(a)kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug

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Thunderbird
by Brian Densmore 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Anyone using Thunderbird on Windows? Any one using thunderbird with an Exchange server account? Will this email actually get sent from Thunderbird? [no it didn't] Brian D.

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RE: paper on new FreeBSD scheduler
by Brian Densmore 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

It would appear, after a very short scan of the doc, that both Linux and BSD have modified the schedulers with the specific goal of clustering in mind. It looks like Linux does pretty good overall from the charts, but there are certain areas that need improvement and the new BSD w/ ULE looks pretty good. I wonder what would happen if one of the top 5 supercomputers were to load BSD. I bet the SGI machine could run BSD, doubt there is a BSD for BlueGene though.

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paper on new FreeBSD scheduler
by David Nicol 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

The chart of nice value plotted against CPU% for linux, solaris, old BSD, new BSD is most interesting. http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/bsdcon03/tech/full_p… -- David L Nicol "How cool is that?" -- Elgie

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Top 500 Supercomputers
by Brian Densmore 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

http://clusters.top500.org/ Although the site *still* doesn't break down the computers by OS, you will note that 3 or 4 of the top 5 are Linux machines (1,2,4?,5). Anyone know what IBM blades run? Also perusing the list you will also note that more than half of the top 500 run Linux. So we can safely say now that Linux is the dominant OS for supercomputers. I also saw an article on cnet yesterday about M$ getting ready to release their own cluster friendly version of Windows. They changed the name (surprise) from HPC to Compute Cluster Edition. Oh and it won't run on Itaniums only X86. Which begs the question, will it work on AMD chips? One thing I noticed a bit odd is that there are not more people building clusters with the AMD 64. I would think the chip would have to scream in clusters. In other news, Mozilla slashdotted itself today. The servers are clogged by downloads of Firefox 1.0. Brian D.

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Reply-To (was Re: Proposed Web site redesign (beta))
by Brian Kelsay 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

Oddly, this is the one thing that Group Unwise does right. If I right-click on a message and choose reply, then I have a choice of reply to sender and reply to all. I use reply to all and then manually delete the individual user's mail address. Until it gets reply to list that will have to do. Brian Kelsay >>> Jeremy Turner <> 11/09/04 01:23PM >>> If the mailing list does not set the reply-to back to the mailing list, then the following happens: * If I click "Reply," I send a reply that goes back to the person. * If I click "Reply to all," I send a reply that goes to the original person, as well as the list. If I do not have a "Reply to list" option, I can use this and then trim off the extra email addresses. * The Reply-To header set by the poster is honored by the mailing list, and can be used successfully.

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Reply-To (was Re: Proposed Web site redesign (beta))
by Jeremy Turner 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 12:49:52PM -0600, Tom Bruno wrote: > I'd love to have the return address be kclug(a)kclug.org, most of the > time reply's come striaght to me when i post, and not to the list, where > they should have been. Especially when talking about Chris's wreck. > Maybe new topic? Here are my thoughts, and then I will keep silent on the mailing list. If you want to follow up with a Reply to me directly, that's fine. *Every single list* I subscribe to has had this issue brought up. There are times when I want to email a list poster directly, and there are times when I want to email back to the list for the archives. If the mailing list sets the reply-to back to the mailing list, the following happens: * Any reply-to that the list poster set is now gone. This violates the defination of the Reply-To header, meaning that Reply-To is the preferred location to reply back to the original poster. * If I click "Reply" in most email clients, it replies back to the mailing list (usually good). * If I click "Reply to all" in most email clients, it replies back to the mailing list (no new functionality), since by defination the Reply-To header is supposted to supercede the address listed in the From header. * If I click "Reply to list" (yes, it's available in most sane email clients that they won't let you use at work), I reply back to the list. * If I want to reply directly to the person who posted, I must go back to their original message and copy their email address, then go back into the new email address and paste it into the To header. This is why changing the Reply-To is a bad idea. If the mailing list does not set the reply-to back to the mailing list, then the following happens: * If I click "Reply to list," I send a reply that goes back to the list. * If I click "Reply," I send a reply that goes back to the person. * If I click "Reply to all," I send a reply that goes to the original person, as well as the list. If I do not have a "Reply to list" option, I can use this and then trim off the extra email addresses. * The Reply-To header set by the poster is honored by the mailing list, and can be used successfully. We are creatures of habit and get used to using the Reply button and want the Reply button to do different things based on a different context. We should mold our email clients to conform to the standards, not transform our email to fit our email clients. Actually this fits in well with the current thread and compliant web browsers. =) Okay, I'm done. That probably adds up to more than $.02. Jeremy

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Proposed Web site redesign (beta)
by Steven Hildreth 09 Nov '04

09 Nov '04

Hi, I am working on updating the KcLUG website to be a dynamic content site via the XOOPS engine, other than a few graphics needed here and there I think it is ready for beta-viewing by the group. you can access the beta-site here; http://www.kclug.org/~shildreth/ I have created a Forum topic here (read only for public, to post a comment create a login; http://www.kclug.org/~shildreth/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1&foru… Not to sound ungrateful for any comments/suggestions, but lets try to make them constructive and productive to making a modern, updated, technical site for our group. I know you you Linux guys (myself included) tend to argue over semantics versus content ;) Thanks! Steven (Tallen)

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